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From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility

On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:

  • Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html


Compiled Name Precedents:

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html

Shauna of Carrick Point 2004.05 Using a placename in an Order name was declared a step from period practice in 11/96. However, Argent Snail argues, "If you look at the list of order names, there are ones that have place names in them, usually because there is more than one order with the same name -eg the Order of Saint Jaelle of Jersusalem and the Order of Saint Jaelle of London." Meradudd Cethin's "Project Ordensnamen", describes Order names of the form [name+place] as the third most common pattern in the data set. Given such evidence, Order names containing place names are consistent with period practice. However, the Order name Order of the Silver Saddle of Trimaris is one step from period practice. By precedent, use of the descriptive term Silver in an Order name is one step from period practice. [Trimaris, Kingdom of, 05/04, A-Trimaris]
François la Flamme 2004.03 [Order name Order of the Silver Sea Urchin] While we have no documentation that Silver would have been used as an adjective in an order name in period, it has been ruled SCA-compatible for use in order and award names in a position where Golden would be appropriate (see the ruling for Award of the Silver Osprey registered by Atlantia in the May 2003 LoAR). [Stromgard, Barony of, 03/2004, A-Æthelmearc]
François la Flamme 2003.10 [Order name Order of the Silver Sycamore] While we have no documentation that Silver would have been used as an adjective in an order name in period, it has been ruled SCA-compatible for use in order and award names in a position where Golden would be appropriate (see the ruling for Award of the Silver Osprey registered by the Kingdom of Atlantia in the May 2003 LoAR). [Æthelmearc, Kingdom of, 10/2003, A-Æthelmearc]
François la Flamme 2003.06 [Order name The Order of the Silver Alce] While we have no documentation that Silver would have been used as an adjective in an order name in period, it has been ruled SCA-compatible for use in order and award names in a position where Golden would be appropriate (see the ruling for Award of the Silver Osprey registered by Atlantia in the May 2003 LoAR). [Æthelmearc, Kingdom of, 06/2003 LoAR, A-Æthelmearc]
François la Flamme 2003.05 [Order name Award of the Silver Osprey] No documentation was presented and none was found that Silver would have been used as an adjective in an order name in period. Meradudd Cethin's article "Project Ordensnamen OR What do you mean that the Anceint[sic] and Venerable Order of the Most Holy and Righteous Wombat's Toenail isn't period?" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/) lists a number of order names that use a color as an adjective. However, Gold/Golden is the only metal listed as an adjective. Therefore, while these examples support the construction [color] [charge], including Golden as a color, they do not support the construction [any general metal] [charge].

At this time, there are 43 order and award names registered that include Silver as an adjective. At least one order or award name including Silveras an adjective has been registered every year from 1981 to 2002 (inclusive) except for four years. Given this level of popularity, Silver is SCA-compatible for use in order and award names in any position where Golden is appropriate. [Atlantia, Kingdom of, 05/2003 LoAR, A-Outlands]

SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC

Regional Groups: By Time Period: Languages Included In This Group: Can Be Combined With Groups:
South Slavic 550-1100 Serbian, Croatian, Bulgarian, etc. Greek

Hungarian/Romanian (per Sept 2012 Cover Letter) Italian Russian/East Slavic

1100-1600 Serbian, Croatian, Bulgarian, etc. Greek

Hungarian/Romanian (per Sept 2012 Cover Letter) Italian Russian/East Slavic Turkish

SENA Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation by Language Group

http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA (as of 12 October 2013)

Iberian

Double Given Names Locative Patronymic Other relationship Descriptive/Occupational Dictus Double Bynames Order
Castilian (Spanish) Late Phrase (de X; del Y or de la Y), unmarked; adjectival Marked (see notes), unmarked Yes; usually without article Yes; second byname usually locative given+byname

given+pat+locative given+byname+locative given+pat+descriptive

Catalan Yes Phrase (de X,del Y or de la Y), adjectival Unmarked or marked as in Castilian viuda "widow" Yes; usually without article alias with two bynames Yes; second byname usually locative given+byname

given+given+byname given+byname+locative

Basque
Portuguese Phrase (de X,da Xdo X,d'X) Marked (see notes), unmarked Yes; usually without article Yes; second byname usually locative given+byname

given+pat+locative

Notes:

Castilian: A patronymic byname may be Latinized (filius B) or in the vernacular, usually formed by adding -ez to the father's name (and dropping terminal -o). Patronyms may also be formed by using an unmodified version of the father's name. For more details see Elsbeth Anne Roth, "16th Century Spanish Names" (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kvs/heraldry/spanish16/) or Juliana de Luna "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/).

Catalan: For further details see Aryanhwy merch Catmael, "Catalan Names from the 1510 census of Valencia" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/spanish/valencia1510.html), especially the surname section.

Basque: All patterns in Basque must be documented; Basque names often closely resemble Castilian or Catalan names.

Portuguese: ...


SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC

Regional Groups: By Time Period: Languages Included In This Group: Can Be Combined With Groups:
Iberian 550-1100 Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese, Basque, Visigothic, etc. Arabic

French Italian

1100-1600 Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese, Basque, Visigothic, etc. Arabic

French Italian