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the greatest number of Scandinavians who travelled eastwards into Russia or east and south towards Byzantium originated in eastern Scandinavia or its colonies. East Scandinavia, including Sweden, Denmark, and Scandinavian colonies in Russia and the Baltic, used a slightly different dialect than did the western Scandinavians. From the beginning of the Viking Age, there were enough differences between the Old Norse spoken in western Scandinavia to differentiate the western dialect from that of eastern Scandinavia. The differences in Old West Norse and Old East Norse (OE.Norse, the language used in Sweden, Denmark, and other parts of eastern Scandinavia) increased noticably after 1000. | the greatest number of Scandinavians who travelled eastwards into Russia or east and south towards Byzantium originated in eastern Scandinavia or its colonies. East Scandinavia, including Sweden, Denmark, and Scandinavian colonies in Russia and the Baltic, used a slightly different dialect than did the western Scandinavians. From the beginning of the Viking Age, there were enough differences between the Old Norse spoken in western Scandinavia to differentiate the western dialect from that of eastern Scandinavia. The differences in Old West Norse and Old East Norse (OE.Norse, the language used in Sweden, Denmark, and other parts of eastern Scandinavia) increased noticably after 1000. | ||
The original runic inscriptions show some of these dialectical differences in the names presented below. This is not to say that eastern Scandinavians were the only east-farers -- several famous Icelanders, and even the reknowned Norwegian king Haraldr ''harðráði'' served in the Varangian Guard in Byzantium -- but most of the people of Scandinavian antecedents in Russia and Byzantium would have been men from Sweden, Denmark, Kiev, and other East Scandinavian settlements. | The original runic inscriptions show some of these dialectical differences in the names presented below. This is not to say that eastern Scandinavians were the only east-farers -- several famous Icelanders, and even the reknowned Norwegian king Haraldr ''harðráði'' served in the Varangian Guard in Byzantium -- but most of the people of Scandinavian antecedents in Russia and Byzantium would have been men from Sweden, Denmark, Kiev, and other East Scandinavian settlements. | ||
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https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/predslava/bbl/women.html#Women's 3a | https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/predslava/bbl/women.html#Women's 3a | ||
===Precedent Norse (Old Norse) - October 2002 LoAR - Gorm Bolin=== | === Precedent Norse (Old Norse) - October 2002 LoAR - Gorm Bolin === | ||
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|François la Flamme | |François la Flamme | ||
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==='''Swedish-Russian Interactions'''=== | === '''Swedish-Russian Interactions''' === | ||
As neighboring nations with competing/complementary tactical and economic interests on the Baltic Sea, Russia and Sweden have had ongoing interactions throughout SCA period from the time of the Road from the Varangians to the Greeks which formed the axis around which the early Rus state emerged with Old Norse rulers (which is why Old Norse/Russian names are registerable SFPP), up to the time of Ivan the Terrible when Swedish and Russian forces fought over access to the Baltic Sea. | As neighboring nations with competing/complementary tactical and economic interests on the Baltic Sea, Russia and Sweden have had ongoing interactions throughout SCA period from the time of the Road from the Varangians to the Greeks which formed the axis around which the early Rus state emerged with Old Norse rulers (which is why Old Norse/Russian names are registerable SFPP), up to the time of Ivan the Terrible when Swedish and Russian forces fought over access to the Baltic Sea. | ||
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In 1595 Tsar Boris Godunov recovered from Sweden the towns lost during the former reign. Having won the Russo–Swedish War (1590–1595), he felt the necessity of a Baltic seaboard, and attempted to obtain Livonia by diplomatic means. He cultivated friendly relations with the Scandinavians, in order to intermarry if possible with foreign royal houses, so as to increase the dignity of his own dynasty. | In 1595 Tsar Boris Godunov recovered from Sweden the towns lost during the former reign. Having won the Russo–Swedish War (1590–1595), he felt the necessity of a Baltic seaboard, and attempted to obtain Livonia by diplomatic means. He cultivated friendly relations with the Scandinavians, in order to intermarry if possible with foreign royal houses, so as to increase the dignity of his own dynasty. | ||
====Discussion of Finnic and Scandinavian names in lists (911 & 944) of Rus ambassadors -==== | ==== Discussion of Finnic and Scandinavian names in lists (911 & 944) of Rus ambassadors - ==== | ||
http://www.allempires.net/finno-ugrian-impact-on-russian-ethnos_topic20088&OB=DESC_page5.html | http://www.allempires.net/finno-ugrian-impact-on-russian-ethnos_topic20088&OB=DESC_page5.html | ||
====907 Treaty==== | ==== 907 Treaty ==== | ||
Names from the 907 treaty with Byzantium per modern Russian translation of the Primary Chronicle: | Names from the 907 treaty with Byzantium per modern Russian translation of the Primary Chronicle: | ||
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====911 Treaty==== | ==== 911 Treaty ==== | ||
Names from the 911 treaty with Byzantium per modern Russian translation of the Primary Chronicle: | Names from the 911 treaty with Byzantium per modern Russian translation of the Primary Chronicle: | ||
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Gudy and Aktevu of these are considered "Finnish" by majority of modern scholars - per allempires discussion. | Gudy and Aktevu of these are considered "Finnish" by majority of modern scholars - per allempires discussion. | ||
====944/945 Treaty==== | ==== 944/945 Treaty ==== | ||
Introduction to the 944/945 treaty with Byzantium per modern Russian translation of the Primary Chronicle - | Introduction to the 944/945 treaty with Byzantium per modern Russian translation of the Primary Chronicle - | ||
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====A very detailed account of the early Riurikids with foreign marriages, etc. -==== | ==== A very detailed account of the early Riurikids with foreign marriages, etc. - ==== | ||
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/RUSSIA,%20Rurik.htm | http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/RUSSIA,%20Rurik.htm | ||
====Prince Yaroslav I figures in Norse sagas as Jarisleif "the lame":==== | ==== Prince Yaroslav I figures in Norse sagas as Jarisleif "the lame": ==== | ||
''Saga of Olaf Haraldson #245 -'' http://www.scriptoriumnovum.com/l/olaf02.html | ''Saga of Olaf Haraldson #245 -'' http://www.scriptoriumnovum.com/l/olaf02.html | ||
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Anund Jakob (Jakun), King of Sweden, brother-in-law of Yaroslav I, had adventures in Rus -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anund_Jacob | Anund Jakob (Jakun), King of Sweden, brother-in-law of Yaroslav I, had adventures in Rus -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anund_Jacob | ||
====Prince Vladimir I Yaroslavich apparently is recorded as Valdemar Holti "the nimble" from when he was exiled:==== | ==== Prince Vladimir I Yaroslavich apparently is recorded as Valdemar Holti "the nimble" from when he was exiled: ==== | ||
Fagrskrinna - http://books.google.com/books?id=SmJ8v1ENhg4C&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=valdamarr&source=bl&ots=GcBrGbRhjT&sig=NobFTCLQ7NEBoHjyrCP9w_TkJPU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7f__UYH1E5a44AOlpoDgDg&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=valdamarr&f=false | Fagrskrinna - http://books.google.com/books?id=SmJ8v1ENhg4C&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=valdamarr&source=bl&ots=GcBrGbRhjT&sig=NobFTCLQ7NEBoHjyrCP9w_TkJPU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7f__UYH1E5a44AOlpoDgDg&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=valdamarr&f=false | ||