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Please send all of your suggestions to HL Gianna Viviana, the Kingdom Minister of Arts and Sciences at artssciences@calontir.org or in person at Queen's Prize.
Please send all of your suggestions to HL Gianna Viviana, the Kingdom Minister of Arts and Sciences at artssciences@calontir.org or in person at Queen's Prize.


Article about for Order Names...
==References and Suggestions==
Mistress Alys Mackyntoich's [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/order/naming.html "Alys's Simple Guide to Naming Awards and Orders"] is specifically written to help non-heralds devise order names.


New precedent for cultures that don't have later period European-style orders...
Note: There are two points mentioned in the article that due to more recent research need to be updated:
# Tenne, sanguine, and sinople are usable Heraldic Tinctures for order names, as well as ordinary color words that can be found in period heraldic treatises and armorials to describe blazon terms
# Objects no longer need to be an attested heraldic charge, just a period artifact, animal or plant that some human being somewhere knew about prior to 1650.
 
 
New precedent for cultures that don't have later period European-style orders in December 2022 Cover Letter...


In general:
In general:

Revision as of 13:11, 18 April 2023

Official Announcement in the Mews

Her Majesty's Explanation

New Order Ideas

The deadline for suggestions is May 10th.

Please send all of your suggestions to HL Gianna Viviana, the Kingdom Minister of Arts and Sciences at artssciences@calontir.org or in person at Queen's Prize.

References and Suggestions

Mistress Alys Mackyntoich's "Alys's Simple Guide to Naming Awards and Orders" is specifically written to help non-heralds devise order names.

Note: There are two points mentioned in the article that due to more recent research need to be updated:

  1. Tenne, sanguine, and sinople are usable Heraldic Tinctures for order names, as well as ordinary color words that can be found in period heraldic treatises and armorials to describe blazon terms
  2. Objects no longer need to be an attested heraldic charge, just a period artifact, animal or plant that some human being somewhere knew about prior to 1650.


New precedent for cultures that don't have later period European-style orders in December 2022 Cover Letter...

In general:

  1. Keep it simple. Your artisans and scribes will run into many difficulties with a too complex design, like crenellations or embattlements, etc.
  2. Please remember your minorities. Certain things, like reference to some Saxon and Norse gods or runes, are coopted by white supremacists.
  3. Also, even though the Cross of Calatrava is the kingdom's symbol, it is nonetheless a very fancy cross. It is both a difficult design to cut out of metal, and it's also.....a cross.

Creatures

Bear

Strong, sort-of lives in Calontir

Bee

See "Sets" below

Chimera of Owl and ?

Cow

"Cowontir"

Demobison

aka Flying Bison, see Flying Golden Boar

Flying Golden Boar

One of the wonders made by the dwarves in Norse mythology.

Fox

Clever, lives in Calontir

Tools and other objects

Anvil, Winged

A winged anvil, AoA

Because it's difficult to get your A&S career off the ground. Retain the dovetail divisions from leather mallet award and the gold wing of the swan. So "Purpure, on a fess dove-tailed argent, a winged anvil sable winged Or.

Bee Skep

See "Sets" below.

Horn

Keeping with the Norse/Saxon history and making it subtle to avoid the appropriated symbology.

  • Order of ‘The horn’. A silver (or gold) drinking horn on a field of purple, referencing the mead of poetry.

Unfortunately, Glean Abhean has horn-based awards since their mascot is a ram.

Ring

Keeping with the Norse/Saxon history and making it subtle to avoid the appropriated symbology.

  • Order of ‘The ring’ or ‘golden ring’. A gold ring on a purple field, referencing the golden arm ring Draupnir crafted by the dwarves for Oden during one of Loki’s crafting challenges.

Drachenwald has the Order of the Ring as their catch-all (?) GoA order.

Rulers and other measuring tools.

We all use them. Whether we're measuring millimeters, milligrams or milliseconds.

Sheaf of Wheat, aka a Garb in Heraldeses

A reference to artisans who 'feed' the kingdom's need for things that nourish the mind and create the ambiance that makes our game so cool.

Thorn

A golden thorn on a purple background. People sometimes collect thorns to make needles out of them. Needles that then get used to make various things (sewing, nailbinding, leather working?!). You are creating a TOOL to make other things. Even that tool itself is a pretty thing and requires making. Then you can also tie it to Roses have thorns and what do consorts become after they are done reigning is roses...


Deities & Religion

Order of Athena's Needle (AoA) and Order of Athena's Helm (GoA)

You could swap Athena for her Roman counterpart Minerva, of course. The idea being that Athena (and Minerva) was known for crafts like weaving, but also was a goddess of wisdom overall, including tactics and battle strategy.

There was objection both on that this is explicitly gendered female (which is to say, gendered at all) and being gender neutral is preferred. There were also concerns because reference to any dieties was considered unfair and not secular.

Also please remember our minorities. Certain things, like reference to some Saxon and Norse gods or runes, are coopted by white supremacists.

Also, even though the calatrava is the kingdom's symbol, it is nonetheless a cross. It is both a difficult design to cut out of metal, and it's also.....a cross. Let's consider that some non-Christian folks and/or folks who may have church or other religious trauma may not want crosses on *every single award.*

Saxon Culture

Pros/cons expressed about emphasizing the Anglo-Saxon traditions of the Kingdom

Certain things, like reference to some Saxon and Norse gods or runes, are coopted by white supremacists.

Cræft-weard (AoA) + Cræft-Māðm (GoA)

  • Order of the Cræft-weard (from the Old English terms for crafts and the word that means both award and guardian) (AoA)
  • Order of the Cræft-Māðm (from the OE word for treasure) (GoA)

The idea of Saxon language seemed amenable to many, perhaps because the kingdom is a Saxon one, but there was feedback that the word "weird" would generate some unwelcome feelings among the populace.

Note that Order names need to be fairly concrete - real-world objects/heraldic charges, personal names, place names. Abstract concepts are... difficult (although using names of deities is explicitly allowed).

===Golden Ring (AoA) and Golden Flame (GoA)

  • Order of the Golden Ring (from the ancient custom of ring giving by thains and thegns) (AoA)
  • Order of the Golden Flame (a reference to the mythical gift of fire, and that such accomplished artisans enlighten and beautify the Kingdom) (GoA)


Sets

Athena's Needle (AoA) + Athena's Helm (GoA)

You could swap Athena for her Roman counterpart Minerva, of course. The idea being that Athena (and Minerva) was known for crafts like weaving, but also was a goddess of wisdom overall, including tactics and battle strategy.

See discussion under "Deities & Religion" above.

Bee + Bee Skep

“Unto the Honourable Lady Gianna Viviani, Greetings.

Their Majesties have called for the proposal of new awards for the Award of Arms, and Grant of Arms, level dedicated to the arts and sciences. When considering the names and symbolism of the proposed awards, I believed it was important for them to be tied together, to celebrate the individual, to show progression, and to demonstrate the inclusiveness we have here in Calontir. With that in mind, and in consultation with Mistress Emeline de Moulineaux, Mistress Alessandra de Piro, Baron Konstantia Kaloethina, and others, I humbly propose the following…

Golden Calon Bee: (Award of Arms) Purpure, a bee volant within a hexagon voided Or. Bees are industrious and adaptable. They have specializations, and change specializations as needs change. The name and colour scheme are a tip of the hat to the Golden Calon Swan, and make it obviously Calontiri.

Silver Skep: (Grant of Arms) Sable, a skep within a bordure Argent. I wanted to tie the two orders together thematically. Continuing with our theme, a skep is the old English word for a wicker beehive. Our artisans and craftspeople are part of a community. The skep demonstrates their inclusion in our collective Calontir mindset, and is designed to show the progress of the individual contributing to the greater whole. The colour scheme is a tip of the hat to the Silver Hammer.

…The names, and blazons, have been conflict checked, and would likely pass if submitted. If you have any questions, or concerns, please let me know. Thank you.

-Galen”

Shears (AoA) and Striking Falcon (GoA)

  • AoA: gold shears on a purple background
  • GoA: purple striking falcon on a gold background

There was concern that the falcon might be confused with the populace badge (colors are reversed and there is a border)


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