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Chevronelly issuant from sinister azure and argent. | |||
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''Chevronelly issuant from sinister azure and argent.'' | |||
Submitted through the Barony of Bjornsborg at Gulf Wars. | |||
No consulting herald listed. | |||
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'''Adelaide de Beaumont''' at 2015-05-12 17:59:56 ([http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=120&id=52215-1&parent=178785 Reply]) | |||
I do not think this is something you can do. The rare occasions on which we have chevron(el)s issuant from dexter and/or sinister make it very clear that it is a thing, not a field division/ordinary, hence the blazon "a chevron couched from dexter" as though it is supported on something, which would not be the case for a repeated pattern. Presumably Ines is her own consulting herald. | |||
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The arms of Trenowith (extinct under Henry VIII) are described by Parker as "Argent, on a fesse sable, three chevronels couched sinister of the field" under Chevronel http://karlwilcox.com/parker/c/Chevronel. The November 2001 LoAR stated re: Torfin de Carric: "Given the well established pattern of interchangeability for other multiply divided fields versus multiple ordinaries... it seems appropriate to extend the ruling for the other ordinaries to cover chevrons." Granted this ruling related more to differencing than to registerability, but it does indicate that if multiple chevronels may be deemed couched from sinister as in Trenowith, chevronelly could be also. I note that same Trenowith arms are blazoned as "Arg. on a fesse Sab. three chevronels palewise, the points to the dexter, Argent" in Magna Britannia: Volume 3, Cornwall, Extinct Families under Trenowth. (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/magna-britannia/vol3/cxviii-clxxiv ) which would support Schwarzdrachen's blazon and remove any concerns about couching without support. In addition, this design could also be blazoned along the lines of "Per fess, bendy sinister and bendy, azure and argent." Thus, this emblazon seems registerable to me. | |||
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Chevronelly issuant from sinister azure and argent.
Public comment on iLOI:
Chevronelly issuant from sinister azure and argent.
Submitted through the Barony of Bjornsborg at Gulf Wars.
No consulting herald listed.
Badge Comments:
Adelaide de Beaumont at 2015-05-12 17:59:56 (Reply)
I do not think this is something you can do. The rare occasions on which we have chevron(el)s issuant from dexter and/or sinister make it very clear that it is a thing, not a field division/ordinary, hence the blazon "a chevron couched from dexter" as though it is supported on something, which would not be the case for a repeated pattern. Presumably Ines is her own consulting herald.
Response:
The arms of Trenowith (extinct under Henry VIII) are described by Parker as "Argent, on a fesse sable, three chevronels couched sinister of the field" under Chevronel http://karlwilcox.com/parker/c/Chevronel. The November 2001 LoAR stated re: Torfin de Carric: "Given the well established pattern of interchangeability for other multiply divided fields versus multiple ordinaries... it seems appropriate to extend the ruling for the other ordinaries to cover chevrons." Granted this ruling related more to differencing than to registerability, but it does indicate that if multiple chevronels may be deemed couched from sinister as in Trenowith, chevronelly could be also. I note that same Trenowith arms are blazoned as "Arg. on a fesse Sab. three chevronels palewise, the points to the dexter, Argent" in Magna Britannia: Volume 3, Cornwall, Extinct Families under Trenowth. (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/magna-britannia/vol3/cxviii-clxxiv ) which would support Schwarzdrachen's blazon and remove any concerns about couching without support. In addition, this design could also be blazoned along the lines of "Per fess, bendy sinister and bendy, azure and argent." Thus, this emblazon seems registerable to me.